Episode Overview
In this episode, hosts Neil Jacobs and Dr. Taylere Markewich discuss the upsides and pitfalls of pursuing likability in leadership. They are joined by HR executive Deeena Goodman, Vice President and HR Business Partner at PGIM Real Estate. Deena shares her insights and experiences on the topic from a number of vantage points including her work in the People function and her background as a licensed clinical social work and a singer-songwriter.
The episode addresses the significance of likability in the context of leadership, its implications on influence and power, and how it interacts with competence. The hosts explore societal and generational trends in likability and discuss the gender disparities that influence perceptions of competence and likeability. Listener to the podcast receive practical tips, emphasizing the importance of balancing genuine connection and expertise. The episode reflects on how even some of the toughest, most performance-driven organizational cultures have shifted to value empathy, openness and authenticity in leadership.
About Deena Goodman
Deena began her career in HR in 2012, when she launched her executive coaching practice, combining her background in Public Relations, acting, and clinical social work to help leaders enhance their executive presence and learn to lead with influence. Since 2018, Deena has worked exclusively for PGIM Real Estate, Prudential’s Global Real Estate Investment platform, where she leads the HR Function for the US Equity business and global corporate functions as well as PGIM Private Alternative’s Business Development platform. This opportunity has widened Deena’s exposure to leaders across functions and solidified Deena’s passion for working with leadership to drive business objectives forward through a thoughtful approach to talent development and organizational design. Prior to her work in the world of leadership development, Deena spent her days writing and playing music in New York City and Los Angeles and then working in the field of Clinical Social Work treating adolescents with severe mental health diagnoses. For this reason, Deena continues to be a big proponent of diversity in the workplace and knows that varied life and work experience leads to better business outcomes. Deena lives in South Orange, New Jersey with her husband, Josh, and three kids who keep her on her toes on a day to day basis.
